I don't like the one where you treat yourself as a defective thing that needs to just insist you're fine until it finally clicks, no. That's sort of a recurring thing I disagree with.
[He's twisting it around in his mind. He's trying to figure out how to get out. How to fix this.]
When you... There's a thing that would hurt but it doesn't. When you decide you need to go away, I'm fine. Like, I'm not ecstatic, but it was the agreement we made that as long as you promise you'll come back, it's okay. It doesn't hurt because I know I'm not being abandoned, and I know you'll come home. There aren't knives.
That doesn't really apply to the tellin' people shit issue so much as like, issue one thousand twenty-seven in the Strider lexicon, which is I suppose abandonment and space.
Your idea with it was that I'd know you'd come back, so both of our things would be dealt with. Maybe if we applied the same logic, we could answer this on a longer scale. If what you need is control over the flow of information, cool. What I need to know is that you want to feel safe with me and you'll work towards it. So. I don't know. Maybe we don't have to juggle knives if we know that we're trying to reach that point where it'll be okay. You can't share the information this time, but no one gets hurt because you are going to try to get to that one day. It just isn't on this one. Me and Jake have our own side of it that's sort of dealing with our own issues between us on this kind of thing, and we should work on that. But we don't have it down yet.
Following that idea, we can say it's okay to not be okay, and no one gets the knife because we know we're all trying. I think because of how we are, which is to say human, we can't give absolute promises to be totally ideal. We can agree to try, though, and that matters because it allows us to be okay with each other's current needs, while working together to try to achieve what we want. Waiting for the day you trust me is something I can accept in the way I can't accept the total loss of your trust forever.
[ the immediate thought he does not say: i don't know if i'll ever trust you that completely ever again. it's pandora's box and he can't trust he won't lose out every time. dave's quiet as he swallows the words down.
there's no fight in his voice or posture, and he's not even sure what he'd fight for if he felt any of that kind of passion. what he needs is still too impossible to see when faced with what other people need or want. ]
If that's what you want. I don't really - I don't know how it works out as a game plan. What you want me to do. But okay. [ he lasted maybe fifteen minutes total this time. less, really, because dave can't even pretend to do estimates. it's just as pathetic a realization as it usually is. ] I said I'd try to change.
[He recognizes what happens and it hits him painful, and it comes out slight and scared in the little shake of his head. No.]
It isn't—this isn't a request. I'm tryin' to—you deserve choices. You have one choice, which is cuttin' out. This is another, and a third would be to hit pause on all of it, offload the entire thing onto me or Rose, and take a break from all of this. I don't think that'd hurt anyone. We can probably come up with a fourth option that doesn't hurt.
You said that you need to not hurt people. I don't know how to help you get what you need. [He needs to get a grip on his fear. It isn't important. Only Dave is important.] That was a bad try.
The possibility we talked about that you didn't know if it would help, where every time you find information, you shove it onto one of us and make us responsible for tellin' people or not.
[Another option. Another choice. Anything to try to get Dave out of a trap where he's sure the only way out is just removing himself from the equation. At least this would be a different way to take himself out of it, one that didn't mean removing himself totally.]
Rose wouldn't. I mean, tell people. In general? She might sometimes but she isn't really ever plagued by doubt about what she should or shouldn't tell people. I don't think? But sometimes I think she might be even worse than I am about that shit, just without any - you know, she doesn't give a fuck. Which, while bein' a thing I sincerely admire about her, probably means it'd be like tossin' a note into a vault and throwin' said vault into a volcano.
[ he doesn't know if it will help but it's halfway what he kept suggesting anyway: dirk gets to make the choice and dave can deal with whatever it is when it happens. or rose doesn't make the choice and raises her eyebrows at him over her latest book. tell or don't tell. ]
[Cal's little expression in every icon and yet, Dirk loves his fucking puppet.]
We should go on a road trip in a direction we've already covered, and just point-blank refuse to acknowledge anything we see that isn't a cool new animal to make friends with. Plot shit? Fuck that. Nobody's home. Sign me up for a new squideel friend.
I'm allowed to take a vacation with my brother. More than a day or two. I'm wary about missing, like, an entire month partly because I think the base might explode behind our backs, which would be unfortunate, but there isn't an issue with some vacation time.
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[He's twisting it around in his mind. He's trying to figure out how to get out. How to fix this.]
When you... There's a thing that would hurt but it doesn't. When you decide you need to go away, I'm fine. Like, I'm not ecstatic, but it was the agreement we made that as long as you promise you'll come back, it's okay. It doesn't hurt because I know I'm not being abandoned, and I know you'll come home. There aren't knives.
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Following that idea, we can say it's okay to not be okay, and no one gets the knife because we know we're all trying. I think because of how we are, which is to say human, we can't give absolute promises to be totally ideal. We can agree to try, though, and that matters because it allows us to be okay with each other's current needs, while working together to try to achieve what we want. Waiting for the day you trust me is something I can accept in the way I can't accept the total loss of your trust forever.
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there's no fight in his voice or posture, and he's not even sure what he'd fight for if he felt any of that kind of passion. what he needs is still too impossible to see when faced with what other people need or want. ]
If that's what you want. I don't really - I don't know how it works out as a game plan. What you want me to do. But okay. [ he lasted maybe fifteen minutes total this time. less, really, because dave can't even pretend to do estimates. it's just as pathetic a realization as it usually is. ] I said I'd try to change.
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It isn't—this isn't a request. I'm tryin' to—you deserve choices. You have one choice, which is cuttin' out. This is another, and a third would be to hit pause on all of it, offload the entire thing onto me or Rose, and take a break from all of this. I don't think that'd hurt anyone. We can probably come up with a fourth option that doesn't hurt.
You said that you need to not hurt people. I don't know how to help you get what you need. [He needs to get a grip on his fear. It isn't important. Only Dave is important.] That was a bad try.
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[Another option. Another choice. Anything to try to get Dave out of a trap where he's sure the only way out is just removing himself from the equation. At least this would be a different way to take himself out of it, one that didn't mean removing himself totally.]
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Rose wouldn't. I mean, tell people. In general? She might sometimes but she isn't really ever plagued by doubt about what she should or shouldn't tell people. I don't think? But sometimes I think she might be even worse than I am about that shit, just without any - you know, she doesn't give a fuck. Which, while bein' a thing I sincerely admire about her, probably means it'd be like tossin' a note into a vault and throwin' said vault into a volcano.
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[That's what matters to Dirk now. Not the information. Not anything but taking care of Dave.]
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[ he doesn't know if it will help but it's halfway what he kept suggesting anyway: dirk gets to make the choice and dave can deal with whatever it is when it happens. or rose doesn't make the choice and raises her eyebrows at him over her latest book. tell or don't tell. ]
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[He's trying. He is trying to build choices back after cutting show many off.]
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[ the "tell anyone don't ask i'll deal" ]
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It...felt like what would be easiest for everyone.
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We should go on a road trip in a direction we've already covered, and just point-blank refuse to acknowledge anything we see that isn't a cool new animal to make friends with. Plot shit? Fuck that. Nobody's home. Sign me up for a new squideel friend.
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Maybe Naoko has a fetch quest?
[ that seems innocuous enough. ]
For weird animals. Or like, more items she wants. Hopefully not undergarments?
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[That could be okay. Something silly and relaxing, for them, totally refusing to see anything important.]
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We can't do it unlooped?
[ because. dirk would miss out on things and people? what? ]
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[ obviously? ]
Well I guess a day or two unlooped wouldn't matter but I was thinkin' more like - [ a week? ok no that's too much. scale it back. ] uh, I don't know.
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...If you don't want to, looping is also okay?
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don't call dirk out on my mistakes lucy i hate you
I DISTRACTEDLY THOUGHT IT WAS ON PURPOSE
NO
ok thats my bad i can't multitask RETCONS IT SO DIRK GOT IT RIGHT AND THAT EXCHANGE NEVER HAPPEND
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