That is definitely a thing I'm going to endorse. Good job, bro. Sincerely. That's hard and props to you for committing to it.
Immediately, I'd like to punch out Vantas for making you think you don't matter and that none of your feelings or thoughts are right. But probably that isn't helpful. Would it help if I talked about how me and Jake handled things? We got together eventually, but the priority was the friendship. Right now he makes you feel worthless and that's not okay. You don't have to agree to try to be friends again. You don't have to put yourself through that feeling. You can just flat out decline this entire thing. If there was something you yourself valued from your friendship and want to preserve, though, then we can talk about what the options are right now.
rose already offered to beat him up for me the second she heard about like rin which i suppose says a lot about something answers still no and it was mostly my fault anyway idk if it can help but like i dont mind if you do it helps when you lay out options sometimes even if i hate all of them i like the listing portion of things
I'm glad that at least you like to listen, even when you hate what I say.
I can understand Vantas's desperate fear here. In a romantic scope, I mean, although yeah I've had that with you, but I mean I was definitely the clingy and aggressive one in my relationship with Jake. 'Steamroller' would be an entirely fair adjective to have applied to my attitude. When Jake and me broke up, we agreed to work on our friendship and meant it. Well. When Jake and me broke up, we couldn't talk to each other out of our depths of self-loathing, then sat around waiting to die, and then got run through a boss fight. After that, though, we made that agreement. Obviously we stood around being awkward first. You know the amount of skill I can put into being an awkward wreck. Then we apologized for what we'd done wrong, and forgave each other, which actually was incredibly easy because both of us were of the opinion that we were the guilty party in this friendship, and also our entire lives. We agreed that some of our things probably couldn't be settled right then. Like the question of whose fault it was, because that was a question we were not ready for yet, and a more detailed analysis of what we needed to do in our friendship. What we were ready for was to agree to be as clear as we possibly could be with each other, and to do everything to listen to the best of our abilities. I also promised to never talk to Jake again if he wanted that and totally let him set the terms of every interaction from that point forward, which was probably extreme, but he did not let me follow through on that. I also told him that he could decide whether to discuss our issues soon, or just work on hanging out and not talking about those issues. We agreed that we'd try our best, but we also acknowledged that we'd probably mess up a lot. We also made it clear that our first priority was our friendship and unfucking up ourselves as people. Jake told me that he wasn't taking romance off the table, but he didn't want to think about it. I think the reason it worked is that we were explicit about the terms of engagement and we both had the same goals, which we set out clearly, and both of us were honest about our feelings on that subject. In that way, we were able to work as a team to improve our relationship. Admittedly, I got a head start of about two months on learning how to be less of an asshole, and that definitely helped when he showed up.
So I'd say the options are: 1. Give up. 2. Request a delay. Give up if he won't accept a delay. Try to be specific about when he can check in again though. 3. Begin the painful and highly abstract process of trying to become a team, which will demand more specific details in options. Consider this set of options the main heading options. There are subheading options depending on your choice.
romance isnt on the table i dont think at the time when we broke up it was because i didnt know about other factors yet but its not on the table anymore im never going to know the exact point i ceased to matter or to which degree it was and im not sure i want to know but its not on the table
so that portion of your advice doesnt matter so much
idk which option i want mostly i would like him to stop trying to corner me into conversations but he kept saying if we dont have them we cant have the casual conversations so i dont know what to do there usually if i really fucking cant handle a conversation you and rose will let me slide on it until i can but he doesnt
but also i shouldnt make this decision right now since immediately after being accused of not wanting to fix things is probably not the best time to make a kneejerk decision about it based off of fuck you or guilt
youre the one who said step one of puppet acclimation should be you drawing designs is that not still the plan beyond wanting to get used to shit thats important to you i think it would probably be nice if i could tolerate puppets instead of them just being this vague triggery bullshit lurking in the distance so it falls under sorting my shit out twofold
I do want to, though I'm a little worried about doing it right now when you're already on edge. If you're good with it though then I'll come home right now and draw a Cookie Monster masterpiece just for you. I do not take commissions. I do take requests.
its a different kind of on edge or look youll offset it im hoping if it freaks me out too much which i dont think the drawing portion will ill let you know
Life of Brian's good. [Life of Brian is hilarious? Judean People's Front vs the People's Front of Judea. It's so funny how the left fractures and becomes useless from in-fighting in the face of authoritarian forces.]
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Good job, bro. Sincerely. That's hard and props to you for committing to it.
Immediately, I'd like to punch out Vantas for making you think you don't matter and that none of your feelings or thoughts are right.
But probably that isn't helpful.
Would it help if I talked about how me and Jake handled things? We got together eventually, but the priority was the friendship.
Right now he makes you feel worthless and that's not okay. You don't have to agree to try to be friends again. You don't have to put yourself through that feeling.
You can just flat out decline this entire thing.
If there was something you yourself valued from your friendship and want to preserve, though, then we can talk about what the options are right now.
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the second she heard about like
rin
which i suppose says a lot about something
answers still no and it was mostly my fault anyway
idk if it can help but like i dont mind if you do
it helps when you lay out options sometimes
even if i hate all of them
i like the listing portion of things
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I can understand Vantas's desperate fear here. In a romantic scope, I mean, although yeah I've had that with you, but I mean I was definitely the clingy and aggressive one in my relationship with Jake. 'Steamroller' would be an entirely fair adjective to have applied to my attitude.
When Jake and me broke up, we agreed to work on our friendship and meant it.
Well.
When Jake and me broke up, we couldn't talk to each other out of our depths of self-loathing, then sat around waiting to die, and then got run through a boss fight.
After that, though, we made that agreement.
Obviously we stood around being awkward first. You know the amount of skill I can put into being an awkward wreck.
Then we apologized for what we'd done wrong, and forgave each other, which actually was incredibly easy because both of us were of the opinion that we were the guilty party in this friendship, and also our entire lives.
We agreed that some of our things probably couldn't be settled right then. Like the question of whose fault it was, because that was a question we were not ready for yet, and a more detailed analysis of what we needed to do in our friendship.
What we were ready for was to agree to be as clear as we possibly could be with each other, and to do everything to listen to the best of our abilities.
I also promised to never talk to Jake again if he wanted that and totally let him set the terms of every interaction from that point forward, which was probably extreme, but he did not let me follow through on that. I also told him that he could decide whether to discuss our issues soon, or just work on hanging out and not talking about those issues.
We agreed that we'd try our best, but we also acknowledged that we'd probably mess up a lot.
We also made it clear that our first priority was our friendship and unfucking up ourselves as people. Jake told me that he wasn't taking romance off the table, but he didn't want to think about it.
I think the reason it worked is that we were explicit about the terms of engagement and we both had the same goals, which we set out clearly, and both of us were honest about our feelings on that subject. In that way, we were able to work as a team to improve our relationship.
Admittedly, I got a head start of about two months on learning how to be less of an asshole, and that definitely helped when he showed up.
So I'd say the options are:
1. Give up.
2. Request a delay. Give up if he won't accept a delay. Try to be specific about when he can check in again though.
3. Begin the painful and highly abstract process of trying to become a team, which will demand more specific details in options. Consider this set of options the main heading options. There are subheading options depending on your choice.
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i dont think
at the time when we broke up it was because
i didnt know about other factors yet
but its not on the table anymore
im never going to know the exact point i ceased to matter
or to which degree it was
and im not sure i want to know
but its not on the table
so
that portion of your advice
doesnt matter so much
idk which option i want
mostly
i would like him to stop trying to corner me into conversations
but he kept saying if we dont have them we cant have the casual conversations
so i dont know what to do there
usually if i really fucking cant handle a conversation you and rose will let me slide on it until i can
but he doesnt
but also i shouldnt make this decision right now
since immediately after being accused of not wanting to fix things is probably not the best time
to make a kneejerk decision about it based off of fuck you
or guilt
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Those are the options I can come up with. You can consider them when you think you're able to.
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were not stopping that right
when are you gonna start drawing puppets
maybe you should like
start on like meme ones
like the cookie monster
make one of those
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Someone wants me to draw the Cookie Monster.
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is that not still the plan
beyond wanting to get used to shit thats important to you
i think
it would probably be nice
if i could tolerate puppets instead of them just being this vague triggery bullshit lurking in the distance
so it falls under sorting my shit out twofold
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If you're good with it though then I'll come home right now and draw a Cookie Monster masterpiece just for you.
I do not take commissions. I do take requests.
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its a different kind of on edge
or
look
youll offset it
im hoping
if it freaks me out too much which i dont think the drawing portion will
ill let you know
what are you doing anyway
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rude
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Although this time it was not drones. General computer part assembly.
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[ he keeps bringing this up?
dave will probably start randomly ironing dirk's clothes if he gets an iron fair warning ]
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im in the tv room btw
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What are we watching?
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[ he was in the tv room.....lazing on the couch messing with his communicator. dave drags his knees in so there's room for dirk to sit. ]
Gilligan's Island?
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[Here. On their Island. In the middle of the sea.]
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[ so JUDGMENTAL ]
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[ like, if he remembers at all. dave holds out a hand for a red pencil and some paper because obviously he needs to be involved in this nonsense.
how is dirk supposed to read his mind here ]
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