It still would have involved me. I just wouldn't know.
[He doesn't want to repeat the ethical metaphor he used last time: it's like spying on someone without them knowing. It's still harm.]
If it's like puppets and flashstepping, then it's something we can try to work on. It isn't concrete, but neither is my thing about loneliness. We've worked on intangible things before.
They're not the same, though. It's a different thing. The whole - what I got upset about here thing, it's not a thing you can acclimate me to if you're not ok with me just learning to deal with the pain.
[ he's not sure how to explain it, and hes not sure he wants to. ]
No, it's not. And I want - all I want is to not be put in the situation where I'm going to feel like that again and again. I can take it if I have to. If you want me to, I can. But I don't want to repeatedly stab myself. Not really. Not when it means stabbing you by proxy every time, too.
[ it's not an issue if the issue isn't even on the table. ]
[It isn't the right choice, it's something important and they both need it. They could work on it. They could find systems, find ways so Dave didn't weigh himself so much on one thing, spread things out, give alternatives and routes so that they will always have security that some time is set aside for just them, specially, regularly. They could work on it and they could get better.
But Dave isn't ready to work on it. He wants to take it off the table. And Dirk isn't Dave's guardian, and even if he were he wouldn't have any right to make him do this just because he knows best. It isn't like he's never been wrong about knowing best before]
[ it's probably the wrong choice but dave relaxes. he's constantly telling dirk he doesn't want to rely on him like he does, and it's safer not to, and this feels like the safest choice. there is absolutely no feasible way that he'll feel like a nothing-afterthought if there's no situation in which there has to be some kind of choice about how dirk spends his time. there's no way to break promises you don't make.
as long as he simply never commits to any solid timeframe about plans with dirk ever again, it's fine. as long as he doesn't ask for anything, he won't get a "no" in response. ]
Thank you. [ he doesn't ask if they're ok like he sometimes does, because dave knows the answer. ] Anything else?
Ok. I'm goin' with Rose sometime tomorrow. We'll be back right after, as usual.
[ he closes his eyes again, mostly because he doesn't think he should be allowed to look at anyone right now. "i'm sorry" is heavy on his tongue but he doesn't let it out. ]
[Ah. Dirk isn't breathing. He should work on that. He should do... something.
He pulls Dave into his arms, and he hugs him. There's something desperate in it this time. He is so, so lost, and he doesn't know how to fix anything.]
[ dave's doing the thing he does where he pulls back hard at the first sign of a burn, a tactical retreat without any sense of strategy. he's not so far gone he doesn't immediately curl into dirk and hug back, although he has hit the point before where he doesn't want that comfort. at least it only got that bad once.
he presses his face to dirk's shoulder and counts the seconds as they slip by. ]
I do love you. [ i'm sorry with a shade of goodbye. ]
It makes sense you might feel like that because of me. Out of everyone, I'm probably the person who can do it to you easiest, even when I think that I'm doing the opposite.
[Dirk doesn't fight that. He keeps himself as he is, holding Dave. Not letting go.]
I'm pretty confident that you know it is. In the right choice, you have to keep putting yourself at risk until you start to believe that you're never nothing to me, no matter what. The choice you're making right now only protects you by letting you think it but never risk thinking it's been confirmed.
[ he can take it easily, pretend it doesn't hurt and pretend he isn't wary every second about whatever plan dirk puts into play. the next time there's a broken promise he won't flinch.
but dirk's gotten dave twisted up about lying and he'd usually say it was better but he can't fucking choose. ]
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[ so: bullseye. ]
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[Well.
Okay, wait.]
I retract that, but not the point behind it.
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[ that sounds bad. ]
It puts shit on you that shouldn't be on you.
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[Like puppets, and like flashstepping.]
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[ is that a threat or a promise? ]
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[He doesn't want to repeat the ethical metaphor he used last time: it's like spying on someone without them knowing. It's still harm.]
If it's like puppets and flashstepping, then it's something we can try to work on. It isn't concrete, but neither is my thing about loneliness. We've worked on intangible things before.
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[ puppets and flashstepping are a hair different from this. ]
That's just acclimation to a thing that doesn't hurt, but might. Or ignoring the things they make me think of.
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[Dirk is such a paint o deal with and he knows it.]
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[ he's not sure how to explain it, and hes not sure he wants to. ]
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[ also: ]
They're not the same in the relevant respect.
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[That's what matters to Dirk. He's quiet but he's also frowning, and he hasn't let go of Dave's hand.]
And for my side of it, that I need to learn how to support you instead of trying to shield you from the problem altogether.
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[ it's not an issue if the issue isn't even on the table. ]
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[It isn't the right choice, it's something important and they both need it. They could work on it. They could find systems, find ways so Dave didn't weigh himself so much on one thing, spread things out, give alternatives and routes so that they will always have security that some time is set aside for just them, specially, regularly. They could work on it and they could get better.
But Dave isn't ready to work on it. He wants to take it off the table. And Dirk isn't Dave's guardian, and even if he were he wouldn't have any right to make him do this just because he knows best. It isn't like he's never been wrong about knowing best before]
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as long as he simply never commits to any solid timeframe about plans with dirk ever again, it's fine. as long as he doesn't ask for anything, he won't get a "no" in response. ]
Thank you. [ he doesn't ask if they're ok like he sometimes does, because dave knows the answer. ] Anything else?
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[ he closes his eyes again, mostly because he doesn't think he should be allowed to look at anyone right now. "i'm sorry" is heavy on his tongue but he doesn't let it out. ]
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[Ah. Dirk isn't breathing. He should work on that. He should do... something.
He pulls Dave into his arms, and he hugs him. There's something desperate in it this time. He is so, so lost, and he doesn't know how to fix anything.]
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he presses his face to dirk's shoulder and counts the seconds as they slip by. ]
I do love you. [ i'm sorry with a shade of goodbye. ]
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[ dirk told him earlier he could say whatever had upset him but dave still doesn't know how. ]
It's not the wrong choice. I don't want to associate you with feeling like nothing at all. [ so he can't let the possibility exist, full stop. ]
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It makes sense you might feel like that because of me. Out of everyone, I'm probably the person who can do it to you easiest, even when I think that I'm doing the opposite.
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[ his hands twist in the fabric of dirk's shirt and dave pulls closer. ]
It's not.
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I'm pretty confident that you know it is. In the right choice, you have to keep putting yourself at risk until you start to believe that you're never nothing to me, no matter what. The choice you're making right now only protects you by letting you think it but never risk thinking it's been confirmed.
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[ he can take it easily, pretend it doesn't hurt and pretend he isn't wary every second about whatever plan dirk puts into play. the next time there's a broken promise he won't flinch.
but dirk's gotten dave twisted up about lying and he'd usually say it was better but he can't fucking choose. ]
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