[ he doesn't want to. dave doesn't want to admit to wanting anything at all. every time he does it goes sideways. he still hasn't specifically said exactly what tuesdays had meant to him. he'd more or less confirmed he didn't loop around or during them at one point because they "mattered". six pm on wasn't time he was willing to duplicate or shove aside. ]
[ he can't commit to something vague. he thinks it would probably be better in the long run if dirk eased off needing dave at all, considering how often he manages to hurt his brother. ]
I wouldn't know where to start. [ or whether or not he'd want to take the steps. ]
I don't know either. My question is if you're willing to try and talk about things we could do.
[Dirk suspects Dave isn't. Even the hint of an idea has been brushed away and shut out. There is a barrier between Dave and letting this happen, and Dave hasn't told Dirk all of it.]
[Dirk doesn't know if he entirely believes what Dave is saying. It's that feeling he gets sometimes. The feeling of being placated. The feeling he's being given something so he'll stop. He has ideas but what's the point of them if Dave doesn't want to try? And he's pretty sure he knows ways to force Dave's hands, simple things he could say, things that aren't even lies, they're just the right things, they're just the best buttons to press to get what he wants. All he has to do is use Dave's weakness, the easiest trigger to pull when the bullet is real. You love me, and you don't want to hurt me.
You're hurting me. I need you to trust me. I love you. It's worst if you leave.
It should work this time, and all he has to do it, but he can't. He won't. It would work and the only reason it might not is if Dave thinks he's protecting Dirk.
If he thinks that. He said he thinks it. He said he can't stab Dirk too.
Dave does think he's protecting Dirk.]
Is it two-sided? You don't want to feel like nothing because of me, but you also don't want to hurt me by reacting negatively. You said you thought we were too close and that you shouldn't have let me move in. Which, aside from being patronizing, is also an implication that you think our closeness is bad for me. You keep implying that you're like your Bro.
[They're all the pieces that Dirk lost track of, the ones he saw and recognized and knew he had to do something with but let go of to try to prioritize what mattered to him most: Dave. They're obvious but he let them slip past him.]
[ they're the parts and pieces shoved in sideways or not fully explained or addressed that most people would let go, if dave just danced around the topic long enough or refused to say things outright. he's more straightforward with dirk than he is with most other people - he relies on song references and inside jokes to be honest with rose, a lot of times - and he couldn't say why. sometimes it's nice and sometimes it's habit and sometimes he thinks he just doesn't want dirk to get practiced at picking apart dave's best facades.
the answer is: yes, of course. dave hates himself, dirk definitely should too, because a million reasons. he's sure rose would back him up on the part where he was in the wrong the other day. she doesn't play games of being nice when dave asks her to tell him the truth.
but is it a knife to the back to say "yes" or not? he's as good as said it, but dave hasn't said it yet, not this time. not so far. ]
I didn't say that. [ did, except in every way but the one that mattered. ] I never want to hurt you.
[ no, be honest. ]
I usually don't. Sometimes I say shit meant to hurt you, or Rose, or whoever else.
[ when they're fighting, sometimes he does. he hates doing it, but sometimes it happens. ]
Hm. That's a solid strategy. Shitty thing to do, but a good strategy.
[It worked well enough. Dave said the words that hurt most and Dirk flinched away. It probably worked every other time but Dirk isn't interested in going over the list of hurts.]
[One down. He does not know if he is cutting away something important or opening up what needs to be open to heal. He hopes, he really hopes, that he's drawing a sickness out.]
Not as much or as often. I remember what we talked about and what you showed me to help.
[But he knows what point Dave isn't arguing, and that's what gets to him most. It isn't fair. All that damage, some other version of him didn't know or care.]
You were a little baby on a meteor put in the hands of someone who had no place raising a child. You were a kid.
I don't disagree. Who you are now, who you've chosen to be, is a person doing his best to be good, in spite of all the things his Bro did to him. Someone who would do whatever he could to protect others, who cares about weird aliens of every variety and goes out of his way to protect them just because. Someone who prevented me from killing Warpers because he didn't think it was right, someone I respect and am proud to call my brother.
Jesus, Dave. Fuckin' up doesn't make you evil. You're just human like me.
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[ he doesn't want to. dave doesn't want to admit to wanting anything at all. every time he does it goes sideways. he still hasn't specifically said exactly what tuesdays had meant to him. he'd more or less confirmed he didn't loop around or during them at one point because they "mattered". six pm on wasn't time he was willing to duplicate or shove aside. ]
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Do you want to try to find out?
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[ he can't commit to something vague. he thinks it would probably be better in the long run if dirk eased off needing dave at all, considering how often he manages to hurt his brother. ]
I wouldn't know where to start. [ or whether or not he'd want to take the steps. ]
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[Dirk suspects Dave isn't. Even the hint of an idea has been brushed away and shut out. There is a barrier between Dave and letting this happen, and Dave hasn't told Dirk all of it.]
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still. if it's what dirk wants. ]
Okay.
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You're hurting me. I need you to trust me. I love you. It's worst if you leave.
It should work this time, and all he has to do it, but he can't. He won't. It would work and the only reason it might not is if Dave thinks he's protecting Dirk.
If he thinks that. He said he thinks it. He said he can't stab Dirk too.
Dave does think he's protecting Dirk.]
Is it two-sided? You don't want to feel like nothing because of me, but you also don't want to hurt me by reacting negatively. You said you thought we were too close and that you shouldn't have let me move in. Which, aside from being patronizing, is also an implication that you think our closeness is bad for me. You keep implying that you're like your Bro.
[They're all the pieces that Dirk lost track of, the ones he saw and recognized and knew he had to do something with but let go of to try to prioritize what mattered to him most: Dave. They're obvious but he let them slip past him.]
Do you think I should hate you?
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the answer is: yes, of course. dave hates himself, dirk definitely should too, because a million reasons. he's sure rose would back him up on the part where he was in the wrong the other day. she doesn't play games of being nice when dave asks her to tell him the truth.
but is it a knife to the back to say "yes" or not? he's as good as said it, but dave hasn't said it yet, not this time. not so far. ]
I didn't say that. [ did, except in every way but the one that mattered. ] I never want to hurt you.
[ no, be honest. ]
I usually don't. Sometimes I say shit meant to hurt you, or Rose, or whoever else.
[ when they're fighting, sometimes he does. he hates doing it, but sometimes it happens. ]
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[I don't need you. It still stings.]
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[ shove them off balance, don't let them see the shit that might matter. ]
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[It worked well enough. Dave said the words that hurt most and Dirk flinched away. It probably worked every other time but Dirk isn't interested in going over the list of hurts.]
Do you think I'd be better off if I hated you?
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[ not if dirk knows about it. this time he decides not to dodge the question he doesn't want to answer. ]
Yes.
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Because you're like you're Bro?
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[ among other things, but clearly giving out answers is hard enough without adding details to the mix. ]
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He doesn't let go of Dave. He doesn't draw back.]
There's a certain level of irony in me finally getting past that feeling only for you to take it on in full force. Indescribably subpar irony.
You aren't a bad person, Dave.
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You don't worry about being like him any longer?
[ that's good, at least. ]
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[But he knows what point Dave isn't arguing, and that's what gets to him most. It isn't fair. All that damage, some other version of him didn't know or care.]
You were a little baby on a meteor put in the hands of someone who had no place raising a child. You were a kid.
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[ maybe not even then? he's not sure. ]
Who I am now is on me.
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Jesus, Dave. Fuckin' up doesn't make you evil. You're just human like me.
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[ that's not the fucking point here, but ]
Can we talk about something - not this. Something concrete. I don't care what.
[ ask him a question tell him a truth, just not something about morality. ]
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[Therefore, no Warper murder.]
Hotaru said the planet was dumb for not thinking I was a nice person.
[This is the first thing that comes to mind when they're already discussing warpers. So there. That's a thing.]
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[ obviously????? ]
Good on the kid for not being a dummy.
[ .....................he can't use the word "dumbass" in regards to hotaru, even if he is saying she is Not That. ]
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I'm not nice. I was willing to kill the Warpers for being maybe a threat. I will accept that I am not necessarily a bad dude, but I am not a nice one.
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[ he will argue this? ]
You do plenty of shit for people you don't have to do, just because you think they might like it or whatever. Or just because.
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[He'd, like, make himself help Komaeda even. Probably. Because it's the right thing to do he guesses.]
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[ apathy on a positive level is still caring? ]
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