So you've never had that kinda moment of "this is what I'm meant for" outside of, like, the game constructs?
[ he did. it's still true. ]
I guess if nothin' else we're def putting into practice the whole socialism soul thing. I wonder if people are actually more satisfied or no? I mean, I think our personal views on the matter are kind of fucked since we're no kind of baseline, but like. The normal people who don't have bullshit? Your philosophers would love this fuckin' place.
My philosophers would go crazy over this place. Thoreau would probably come to tears.
[Dirk does think about it for a moment. While he's flipping through the book, he turns over all the ideas and tries to find the answer.]
I don't know. Outside of what the game made me exist for, it isn't something that's ever been on my mind. There are things I enjoy doing, but I wouldn't say that's the location of my purpose for living. That has its locus in people which some might consider overdone, but it's something I've come to accept about myself. It's difficult to find any particular feeling of a calling when I'm doing the same things I was doing for the sixteen years I was waiting for my life to start happenin'. They're just things I do for a better reason now, in a better situation.
[ he probably should have thought about his own answer before asking the question at all, but alas. it takes dave like an entire book to speak up. ]
Not really. Not in the way I asked. I don't know that I'll ever have that kind of moment? [ he's not normal enough, probably, to get to that point. ] There have been moments where I've thought that maybe everythin' was worth it or at least maybe there was a point to all of it, but that's not the same thing at all, not really. Maybe a shade of similar, but not the same.
[That's okay. Dirk has books and books go through through waiting. When Dave does talk, Dirk listens.]
Do you mind not having that?
[Dirk doesn't, and Dirk doesn't see why Dave needs one. Dirk thinks Dave deserves to be free of a 'purpose,' that if he ever finds one down the line it should be one of many. Dirk thinks Dave's only reason to be should be being.
But it occurs to Dirk that it could also be nice to have a purpose of one's own choosing after being given purposes by forces that don't care for you. So he doesn't know.]
No. I never wanted a purpose to start with, really.
[ or maybe he was tired of failing to have one, and he wanted to just...stop having the expectations. ]
Dave of Guy would be a perfectly adequate title. Not too interested in rackin' up others. [ for all that he reluctantly assigns himself responsibilities, he really doesn't enjoy having them. he just...automatically takes them. ]
But sometimes it's nice to assign a purpose to the meaningless shit in my life.
We're agreed to be purposeless slackers for the rest of eternity.
[The textbooks mark the irony of it, but of course Dirk is also sincere. They are good as they are.]
We're also agreed that it's fun to give purposes to meaningless things. Apparently. That must mean you're signing onto my Calvanist Nancho interpretation.
[ or, well, he sideways meant maybe at least there's some good shit about his childhood if it means he can at least flipways understand shit about dirk and if it gives him perspective to help him elsewhere, but. somehow he doubts anyone wants to hear about that particular assigning-meaning experience, ever. ]
Although I can't confirm or deny the Calvanist Nancho agenda, of course. That would be tellin', and half the fun in comics is not tellin' people what the fuck you mean.
[It was gentle bait to offer Dave the chance to expand on 'meaningless shit in his life.' As usual, Dirk is an idiot for thinking 'gentle bait' is the appropriate way for getting Dave to say things. He thinks about it for a moment, and then, lightly, he shoves against Dave's shoulder on that other beanbag. It is obviously not going to unbalance Dave in the slightest.]
Pretty sure it ain't, bro.
[Exactly what Dave meant.
But that's okay. Dirk isn't going to insist on anything.]
Half the fun of reading is producing a proliferation of esoteric interpretations. Your comics are a veritable font of possibilities.
[ it what he says by way of explanation, as he kicks dirk in the shin. or, well. taps dirk's shin with his foot, not remotely a kick, but it's the same fucking difference.
he tosses his latest finished book dirk's way, still content in the knowledge dirk can handle having stuff thrown at him. ]
I warned you. But sometimes it's... [ not nice, or maybe it is nice? just. ] ...so much bad shit comes out of that noise that I like to pretend there's good stuff, too, a little bit.
[ it's not like he isn't aware it was pointless, but that's kind of why he likes to pretend it was necessary for him, sometimes. it's easier to deal with some days than the simple fact that there wasn't any reason or meaning at all. ]
Never saw Doctor Who much. I think one or two eps, but - that should work? URSULA probs has the footage, right?
Yeah. 'Pretending' might be an unfair word for it. 'Finding,' maybe?
[Because he doesn't agree that Dave could ever be a bad person, that he'd be a worse person without what his Bro did. But he understands the need to put a meaning behind it. A purpose]
It was out of my field. I expect URSULA would have a ton. In my universe it kept running well into the demise of humanity, so it wouldn't surprise me if it's still ongoing in this universe.
Maybe. [ hard to say. he isn't sure if he's right or wrong about thinking that maybe it helped in terms of letting him understand people. he's pretty sure without everything he's gone through he'd be more thoughtless than he is already, though. so at least there's that, right? ]
We can start watchin' an episode every other day or...whatever timeframe you think works. Dunno. Ain't like we don't got the time.
[So it's Dave's choice in words, it's Dave's choice in how to define it. Dirk might suggest or talk it through with Dave, but he is learning better than to try to impose or insist.]
I like that idea. Do we start with the start?
[which is. a laborously boring episode, somehow, but if anyone can find it hilarious the Striders can. also who doesn't want to see an old dude almost smash a guy's head open with a rock?]
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[ he did. it's still true. ]
I guess if nothin' else we're def putting into practice the whole socialism soul thing. I wonder if people are actually more satisfied or no? I mean, I think our personal views on the matter are kind of fucked since we're no kind of baseline, but like. The normal people who don't have bullshit? Your philosophers would love this fuckin' place.
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[Dirk does think about it for a moment. While he's flipping through the book, he turns over all the ideas and tries to find the answer.]
I don't know. Outside of what the game made me exist for, it isn't something that's ever been on my mind. There are things I enjoy doing, but I wouldn't say that's the location of my purpose for living. That has its locus in people which some might consider overdone, but it's something I've come to accept about myself. It's difficult to find any particular feeling of a calling when I'm doing the same things I was doing for the sixteen years I was waiting for my life to start happenin'. They're just things I do for a better reason now, in a better situation.
What about you?
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[ he probably should have thought about his own answer before asking the question at all, but alas. it takes dave like an entire book to speak up. ]
Not really. Not in the way I asked. I don't know that I'll ever have that kind of moment? [ he's not normal enough, probably, to get to that point. ] There have been moments where I've thought that maybe everythin' was worth it or at least maybe there was a point to all of it, but that's not the same thing at all, not really. Maybe a shade of similar, but not the same.
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Do you mind not having that?
[Dirk doesn't, and Dirk doesn't see why Dave needs one. Dirk thinks Dave deserves to be free of a 'purpose,' that if he ever finds one down the line it should be one of many. Dirk thinks Dave's only reason to be should be being.
But it occurs to Dirk that it could also be nice to have a purpose of one's own choosing after being given purposes by forces that don't care for you. So he doesn't know.]
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[ or maybe he was tired of failing to have one, and he wanted to just...stop having the expectations. ]
Dave of Guy would be a perfectly adequate title. Not too interested in rackin' up others. [ for all that he reluctantly assigns himself responsibilities, he really doesn't enjoy having them. he just...automatically takes them. ]
But sometimes it's nice to assign a purpose to the meaningless shit in my life.
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[The textbooks mark the irony of it, but of course Dirk is also sincere. They are good as they are.]
We're also agreed that it's fun to give purposes to meaningless things. Apparently. That must mean you're signing onto my Calvanist Nancho interpretation.
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[ or, well, he sideways meant maybe at least there's some good shit about his childhood if it means he can at least flipways understand shit about dirk and if it gives him perspective to help him elsewhere, but. somehow he doubts anyone wants to hear about that particular assigning-meaning experience, ever. ]
Although I can't confirm or deny the Calvanist Nancho agenda, of course. That would be tellin', and half the fun in comics is not tellin' people what the fuck you mean.
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Pretty sure it ain't, bro.
[Exactly what Dave meant.
But that's okay. Dirk isn't going to insist on anything.]
Half the fun of reading is producing a proliferation of esoteric interpretations. Your comics are a veritable font of possibilities.
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[ it what he says by way of explanation, as he kicks dirk in the shin. or, well. taps dirk's shin with his foot, not remotely a kick, but it's the same fucking difference.
he tosses his latest finished book dirk's way, still content in the knowledge dirk can handle having stuff thrown at him. ]
We should get into some kinda series.
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[Caught easily and traded over without hesitation.]
Like a tv show?
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[ to trade dumb theories over. dave kind of feels like it could be entertaining. ]
I'd understand you worse, and maybe be a worse person, if none of it had ever happened.
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Doctor Who.
[It is not in his usual ball-park but it has been running since 1963 and quite possibly it runs to the present day in URSULA's time. He doesn't know.]
Okay. I don't know how much I agree to that, especially the second one, but yeah. I get what you're thinking.
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[ it's not like he isn't aware it was pointless, but that's kind of why he likes to pretend it was necessary for him, sometimes. it's easier to deal with some days than the simple fact that there wasn't any reason or meaning at all. ]
Never saw Doctor Who much. I think one or two eps, but - that should work? URSULA probs has the footage, right?
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[Because he doesn't agree that Dave could ever be a bad person, that he'd be a worse person without what his Bro did. But he understands the need to put a meaning behind it. A purpose]
It was out of my field. I expect URSULA would have a ton. In my universe it kept running well into the demise of humanity, so it wouldn't surprise me if it's still ongoing in this universe.
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We can start watchin' an episode every other day or...whatever timeframe you think works. Dunno. Ain't like we don't got the time.
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[So it's Dave's choice in words, it's Dave's choice in how to define it. Dirk might suggest or talk it through with Dave, but he is learning better than to try to impose or insist.]
I like that idea. Do we start with the start?
[which is. a laborously boring episode, somehow, but if anyone can find it hilarious the Striders can. also who doesn't want to see an old dude almost smash a guy's head open with a rock?]
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[ not that dave minds chronological order? he just...tends to not mind it as much since he's spent so much time dropping in and out of it. ]
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[Because it literally did not matter what order you watched any of them in, ever.]
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[ because he is a confusing jackass? ]
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[Thanks to.... a Dave who decided to be an ass about this sort of thing without even having time travel as an excuse.]
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[ honestly it might just be a mindset that applies to All Daves. ]
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[Therefore no?
why is this the silly argument they're having now]
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[ his eyebrows are raising, dirk. ]
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[he has opinions about this]
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[ it's teasing. ]
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