Things like that are things we can work on together, the way we've worked on flashstepping and are going to try with puppets.

[He hopes it is more of the former, but he worries. Not that Dave will take it as an identity, he's sure it isn't. But because he worries about Dave refusing to admit discomfort for fear of changing Dirk.]

Is it... the thing you were going to say. What were you going to start with? I think I got the 'you know' on the second part of it.

[There have been a lot of those and Dirk is trying to track them.]