Yeah. [He's painting and not really looking at Dave since he's concentrating.] There's this saying that's like. "The only good luck many great men ever had was being born with the ability and determination to overcome bad luck." People can get stuck with some really shitty circumstances but as long as there are people who are patient with them and will let them grow toward them and away from what they don't want to be, I think people can turn out perfectly okay.